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(Again, many thanks to g.O.D for formulating these questions. )

Here are some answers to questions you might have:
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  • Exactly what is going to happen with TS, IRC and gaming servers ?
Exodus has a TeamSpeak and an IRC network.
Our TS and IRC will be implemented into theirs, meaning:
If you join ts.renz0r.net or irc.renz0r.net you will join Exodus TS or IRC.
The TS is fully set already by me and Filak, and even has a channel for us renz0r guys if we want to hang out with just our guys.
There is clanchannels and channels for our servers too.
Their IRC will have the same channels as we had on our IRC.
So #Mission-DM #DM-Admin etc etc, all will be there.

I, reaver and Golster have SA on TS there as we had here.
On their IRC I am an operator (invisible highest form of power).
So that also remains the same as on renz0r.
Our admin channels will be without password, as this is how they do it over there.
Just a note about that: this was to counter Mandai, and we no longer see him.

Hope that clears it up. Feel free to ask if anything is unclear.
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  • Is Renz0r staying online but as an Archive and viewable and what is staying here and what are you taking over to exodus ?
There are a few possibilities about this, but some are complicated.
To not screw up anything and not screw over people, I think it is best to not do anything yet that can't be undone easily.
The plan now:
Clan forums Stay!
News Bulletin Stays!
Server info section Stays!
Staff forum Stays! (yes invisible to you, but I need it for some control panels)

Other sections will be closed for posting, but still viewable.

What are the other options?
It is possible to merge the entire renz0r SQL database with Exodus.
This means that we move our posts, our postcounts everything, to that forum.
How ever, I rather see this site as unique and keep it unique.
Also, I can move someone's posts, but I can't move someone's will to have posted on renz0r.
I don't want to take that big a decision, it wouldn't be fair to some.
Also, there are posts here that should stay here.
But this option is still something that is theoretically possible.

Another option is to move clan forums and have them on Exodus.
But this would require us to settle with a different forum looks, or making another skin to resemble what we had (it is possible though!)
This is undecided. We want to see how it goes with the top option.
Let us first see how well we can adapt.
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  • When doesRenz0r as a forum end ?
End of this month the forum sections that will discontinue will be locked.
So viewable still, yes.
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  • All Clan forum sections ie; -DM- and [MC]-clans what is going to happen with them ?
They stay where they are, and can stay there for ever.
I have no need to bring that to Exodus, unless the clan leaders feel different about it.
I fully trust Exodus admins, but do need to say: here the privacy of the clans is more guaranteed.
Not saying it is not on Exodus, just saying I will be the only one to hamper your privacy here, and I trust myself, hope you do too.
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  • Exodus uses WOL only, when the servers move will they still be on GSA too or just WOL ?(hopefully to get popularity, on both)
This is not up to me, but I am an admin now together with Reaver.
If there is a strong wish for this, I will certainly throw it in the group there.
Required for this is: Post you use GSA as a reply!
I need to show them it isn't just 2 or 3 people that use GSA.
If we on Exodus decide we don't do it (it's very democratic, which appeals to me) I can create something for you that makes it easy for you to connect.
Maybe an IRC script or a special Exodus connect tool, with all servers listed in them.
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  • What's happening to current stats of moderators, admins and staff?
I was allowed to select a few people to move over without any hassle.
Reaver and I will become administrators.
Filak did not want this responsibility because he also runs Borgamers.
But Filak will be a familiar face there, and help out sometimes when we are faced with a problem only he can solve.
Eightball has only recently come back to us, and when he did most was handshaked on.
Administrators are mandated to have some form of skill in scripting/modding (modifying).
Next to this, I am unsure if our friend 8bewb will continue to be active.
I hope he will. Arny (the reckneya of Exodus) has inquired about him though, and depending on him being active, he would be able to get moderator status.

I was also allowed to bring over 4 moderators.
Just to make sure you understand: these guys will be moderator on our servers, but also the Exodus AOW, which is one of the most popular servers these days.
(had 50 people a few days back, which is their max)
These moderators are Sc0p3, F41c0n, Zorid and Shaitan.

They will become full mod.
Want to become a mod there too?
No problem! You just need to show them you are active.
I can put you up for tempmod, or if you are on the servers lots I or any other admin can suggest you for full moderator status.
This will be voted on by all admin, and if the outcome is positive you will get it on a 3 month probation.

Mods over there need to post their bans just like on renz0r.
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  • What have you offered to Exodus and what in return do you get yourself ?
Simple: Mutualism here.
For them:
Our forum users/IRC users/TS users will join up there, and also our servers will run as Exodus, instead of renz0r.
The servers will remain physically the same.

For us: Their forums are much more populated, same as their IRC.
Their TeamSpeak is in my opinion underused, so as soon as the subdomains ts.renz0r.net and ts.renz0r-gaming.com are properly redirected it will be a lot more crowded.

Because that community is so big, it will bring players to our servers.
Also, their current Coop will close, meaning 1 less coop in the rotation.
Those players will go to our coop so + our coop players will bring some new life to Coop.

We will be hosting all our stuff on much better hardware.
Now we have a 2.4 Ghz Quad Core with 2 gigs of memory, running on Windows 2003 (32bit)

The server we get at Exodus (I already have access and am setting up stuff atm) is a lot better:
3 Ghz Xeon Quad Core (12 MB L2 cache buffer!!) with 8 Gigs of memory (!!!) running on Windows 2003 (64 bit!), installed on a 10,000 rpm Hard Drive.
This thing is uber fast.
Also, it will have a much better connection speed compared to our current server.
Try playing on their AOW and see for yourself.

Next to that our monthly costs will be reduced to $105.00 USD!!
This is a lot more appealing than the $170.00 USD we pay now, cause we get something much better.

This Box which we are talking about will be their second server.
Right now, they have 2 Boxes, of which one is the same (holds their AOW) and the other is less good.
The lesser good will be dropped, just like ours.
So the hardware improvement and cost reduce is a mutual interest too.

Also, I offer them my skill in what I can, and Reaver his skill in what he can.
They give us their skill in what they can (there is a lot of coders there)
This will prove very valuable for the both of us in the future.
I am thinking of ranking plugins for DM, working Biatch on all servers etc.

They also are part of the Renegade X team, meaning they will have a server up and running soon.
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  • and the same goes for the rest of us with the above question ?
I think that has been answered, but please do ask more specific if your question was unanswered.

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Last but not least:
Some people have not been keeping track of what happened in n00bstories/ renegade forums.
Basically Exodus is a community that has just started.
It split from n00bstories/renforums not long ago after a big fight in the high command.
Crimson is the owner of both n00bstories and renforums, and it is believed she massively abused her powers (again) and people got fed up with that.
If you want to know what shit crimson pulled, read here

Anyhow, Exodus was formed as a result of the power abuse.
Crimson has tried to sabotage their server many times also.
You can read about that here

Exodus is a very democratic community.
It is created to bring people a community where no assholes are put into power.
One rule of them I really like: The administrators and Moderators are there to serve the community, not the other way around.
This is something we at renz0r can relate to.
Their views on things are very equal to ours, maybe even the same.
I have been talking with the other admins a lot now, and I can only say they remind me of this place when it was really big about a year back.

Hope this clears up any uncertainties.
Also hope to see you on our new forums:
http://www.exoduscommunity.com/index
Already, a lot of you have signed on, and that makes me happy

Renz0r never dies. As long as I am here, it never dies.
This was just needed because I really couldn't pay the servers anymore.
I am almost flat out broke.
This not only ensures the survival of our mods and team, it also bring a lot of new opportunities to us.
I hope you can agree with me.
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Correction to the WOL question!

They are on both GSA and WOL
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The TeamSpeak subdomains are now properly redirected to our new TeamSpeak.
Took a while for the DNS to clear, but I just confirmed they have.
So please join the TS, and register.
You do not need help of an admin, you can register yourself by default.
Click on self -> register

If you find yourself unable to join and get the message "bad login (name and/or password wrong)" it means you are probably trying to sign in on with your renz0r login details.
Make sure you sign in as unregistered first please.

The new TS has a channel specially for us guys.
The password to this channel is renz0rbewbs
It is a moderated channel, so you will need voice or up to be able to talk there.
Hit me, reaver of golster up for voice there.

Hope to see you there soon.
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Re: Moving to Exodus, what will change and what not?

This was an incredibly informative, organized, and extremely helpful.

I don't usually post in the announcements or get involved with them, but this one really helped me see both the over-arcing vision for Renz0r's future, and also the nitty-gitty details that have been worked out in relation to the alliance/coming merge.

For example, I wasn't fully sure or aware what was exactly happening to every forum section on Renz0r. I know it was assured that clan-forums would stay, and that someone forums would be shut down, but I wasn't clear on how that was exactly going to play out. Now I know.

Also, I didn't know that Exodus apparently has an experienced community or team of modders/coders/scripters. If the possibility of having improved bots, and server-side additions to the servers Renz0r brings over becomes more more possible now, then that is a great bonus in my books.

The Q&A method always is a good choice to explain things with. This was no exception, and you did it excellently Reckneya. I'm much more at ease with the coming future now that I know a little more of the specifics and details of what will be (possibly) happening in the future.

Again, I'll make clear as well that although Exodus is apparently where 'Renz0r' will officially be, I'm still quite more comfortable here, and I'll probably be sticking to all the work on Coop Modding and creating graphics art for Renegade/Nitro/Renz0r/[MC] Clan/Coop here.

Of course, to quote the famous Albert Einstein from the 'Command and Conquer: Red Alert' opening sequence... (1:48 minutes into the video, but you can watch the whole thing just for fun. =D)


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Re: Moving to Exodus, what will change and what not?

Hey guys,

After much thinking and talking i now have a much better understanding about whats going to happen with things in renz0r and this move.

I had questions i needed to answer so instead of posting them myself i spoke with g.O.D and he posted them for me so this way my text could not be read the wrong way not that it would have but just to be safe.

The Clan

Im staying, i love this clan and the guys in it.

My Mod

Im not giving up on that, i am going to contiune it with pride. So sorry its taking so long its just when i am doing things on it it takes me a long time to do so things.
I am hoping to release it with 6 maps asap, ive still got alot of texturing to do so i havent started in leveledit yet. but dont worry working in leveledit to me is quite fast, with a map i can make up a mission within a day or 2 so that wont take long.

Will i be registering with exodus?

Yes,
now i know whats going on with everythink i feel more involved and part of this move. I hope others now feel more involved and more comfortable with whats going on, as i do.

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Re: Moving to Exodus, what will change and what not?

thanks Reck

It seems that they went thru same shit as we did back in 2006 with GDE.
Ok, im staying here, not moving anywhere, but still - i dont feel their forums,

yet.
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Great, looks like everything is cleared up now and hopefully things will begin to settle down soon.

glad that we are all happy and united again!

even if it is under the exodus flag now and not renz0r.

we are still a close team, just a much bigger team i would say.

in any case, lets head out to the battlefield!

and lastly.

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Reckneya, it was not a problem after that chat we had,
I was glad to help
I could see something was not right and was glad to
bring it to your attention, as many of us have come to far now to....blah blah blah

I'm babbling on abit, so ye, anyway Zorid some of those
questions were from me too as you already know, I say this
because I can't take all the credit for sorting something out

ende I'm glad you feel somewhat a bit near to
seeing through your first initial reaction, we wouldnt want to let you
go that easy bud, you v made too big a contribution to Renz0r.




Lets move up from where we are now by adapting
to the new environment, which seems atm to be
bringing in all the smaller communities together
and filter out the Bad ones, this in turn will create in the
future hopefully one of the biggest closest and strongest
gaming communities online.

Edit; sooner or later, time will tell.


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